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Chris's avatar

I like characterizing it as a bottleneck, although I think another core problem is that we let people talk about it as if the purpose of the class is to show people that they CANNOT succeed in the major, when much more often what it's showing people is that they MUST WORK HARDER to succeed in the major. And some people respond to that by pushing through the bottleneck, and some people respond to that by moving to a degree program that doesn't include the bottleneck.

But telling someone "it's OK if you don't want to work that hard, you can pick a major that is better suited to you" comes across a lot better than "I don't think you're cut out for this."

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Derek Catsam's avatar

One way to look at these, if you can get the data, might simply be DFW rates. At my university the only two "weed-out" courses in History are the two halves of the survey -- beyond that, we have distribution requirements for geography/time period, but we do not have an especially structured major beyond that. My experience is that relatively few students get actual Fs in my surveys, and only a few more get D's. But I have a number of students who simply stop showing up or never show up or only show up form one or two classes and then don't drop properly. I used to give those people a W, because I did not want to give them an F that wasn't really an F. That option is foreclosed in our latest grading input system. Whether that weeds them out because they never end up finishing (the two surveys are also a gen ed requirement for all students) is another x factor, and one that probably does not happen as much at an elite SLAC than at a state master's comprehensive.

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