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Timothy Burke's avatar

I'm not sure there is any terminology that can't be griped about in these terms--any given meaning of a word excludes other possible meanings of it. If "the humanities" = "all knowledge" then first off, we'd just use the word "knowledge" or "scholarship", and second off, it wouldn't mean anything at that point anyway because nobody would want to be excluded from it. (Roughly the same way that everyone and everything wants to be inside "liberal arts" when it's understood to be a pleasing, anodyne, description of education.)

"Humanities" is basically a Renaissance concept that a new wave of modestly secular intellectuals used to underscore their secularism and therefore often actually included 'natural history', e.g. early modern European science. When science started being understood to mean something other than natural history in that sense, I think the people self-naming as scientists were as responsible for seceding from 'humanities' as 'humanists' were for kicking them out of the category--the roots of that moment are really in the intellectual rise of positivism, which touched on more than just the natural sciences. (Hence in the 20th C., you've had moments inside of ostensibly humanistic disciplines where practicioners have thrown their hat in on doing a "scientific" version of that discipline.)

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Sidney Kitchel's avatar

It would help if these Humanities guys knew more about history and sociology of science and mathematics. Proof is impossible for science and very difficult for much of mathematics. So both are human endeavors where networks of people accomplish the advancement.

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